试译陷阱？

Ying Wang wrote:



我见到的两次试译，有关公司和产品名称之处，皆用假名替代。并且可以肯定，试译稿的源头出自同一家super LSP。我揣测这件事未必与谷歌直接相关。第一、谷歌不差这点钱；第二、即便谷歌想要免费劳动，也可以公开招募义工，这对谷歌并不难。虚假测试的获益者，最有可能的是LSP。有的同仁说，500字的试译，LSP能占多少便宜。可是，宏观地看一下，巨型LSP完全有经济实力和技术实力，不需要多少人工，把一个几万字的翻译项目，拆分成上百个测试文件，然后发给自由译者做免费试译。试译的结果，也不需花多少人工，就会被整合到一起。更有甚者，巨头LSP还有可能发展低阶一些的LSP，共同牟利。这样，受损害的是这些自由译者。而这些自由译者大多不认为被人占了500字的免费劳动，是一件值得挂心的事，因此也不会有多少抱怨。这样的一个局面就使一个骗局得以长期存在。

我刚入行，对整个翻译行业的运作了解不多。以上只是基于我知道的一点事实，做的一点推测。

Jean@LA wrote:

让大家看看这类的做法是不是有crowdsourcing的可能？

不论是不是，有没有，我觉得译者没得到基本的尊重是很很真切的。或许我太理想主义，要求太高了。

jyuan_us wrote:



据我所知有限的知识， CROWDSOURCING 也是要给钱的，而且是正当行为，不涉及欺骗。

[Edited at 2013-11-20 21:22 GMT]

Ying Wang wrote:

我同意，在初始阶段，试译也是学习的机会，尤其是能够获得反馈意见的试译。如果翻译公司的确是想招收新译者，把试译作为入门考试的形式，这是正常的。但是，我提到的案例，大有可能是一起骗取免费劳动的欺诈案。这时，译者如果已经知情，还积极配合的话，就是在助纣为虐。

Ying Wang wrote:

我同意，在初始阶段，试译也是学习的机会，尤其是能够获得反馈意见的试译。如果翻译公司的确是想招收新译者，把试译作为入门考试的形式，这是正常的。但是，我提到的案例，大有可能是一起骗取免费劳动的欺诈案。这时，译者如果已经知情，还积极配合的话，就是在助纣为虐。

Ying Wang wrote:

不一定是谷歌的事

ysun wrote:

我不久前在北加州旅游时，顺路去看了看谷歌的总部。那些自行车都是供谷歌员工在各办公楼之间“漫游”时用的。

Exterior view of Silicon Graphics Inc. headquarters in Mountain View, Calif., Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2003. Troubled computer maker Silicon Graphics Inc. said Wednesday it is cutting another 600 jobs, or nearly 17 percent of its work force, in its latest effort to keep costs in line with sagging revenues. Including 400 layoffs announced in May, SGI will have reduced its total headcount by 25 percent, to 3,000, when the latest round is completed over the next several months. (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma) cat Photo: PAUL SAKUMA

http://www.studios.com/projects/google_headquarters_formerly_sgi_north_charleston_campus

Originally designed for Silicon Graphics, Inc., this campus now houses Google’s headquarters.

STUDIOS designed this campus—which previously housed SGI’s corporate headquarters, as well as research and development facilities—to reflect the technology company’s progressive culture and business philosophy. The campus’ four buildings are configured to create internal courtyards, and are connected to one another by glass bridges. The project included office space for engineering and administrative staff, dining facilities, a fitness center, a theater, and a 1,000 car parking structure.

The campus is located near a former Superfund site a short distance from San Francisco Bay. Developed in public-private partnership with the City of Mountain View, the site includes public access trails through its center, as well as an adjacent public park.

The North Charleston Campus is a benchmark for corporate campus design—through the application of urban and academic campus design concepts, this project transformed the notion of the suburban corporate campus.

Jean@LA wrote:

究竟葫芦里卖的什么药？

就是冲着谷歌的雄厚实力才“慕名”接受免费试译的。当时倒是没想到中间人可以玩把戏。尤其是让我回答为何要为谷歌工作的问卷，更是像一般美国企业界的面试问题。

ysun wrote:

Steve,

商场如战场，斗争也是残酷无情的。很多公司都经历了大起大落的局面。Apple 不是也经历过濒临破产的境地吗？

wherestip wrote:

Indeed. Even Steve Jobs was hesitant to take over the mess Gil Amelio left him. He stayed interim CEO for multiple years until 2000.

Meixia Jordan wrote:

同意Ying Wang的见解！尤其是初入行的同事，一般会比较急着建立自己的客户群，500个字看起来不多，也毕竟是你的心血。要学会保障自己的权益，不要白白浪费时间和精力。一般来说，我提倡接受试译，不过最好控制在200字左右，这是双方友好合作的第一步。不要翻译费也可以。不过要事先调查一下该公司的背景，如果你有什么奇怪的feeling, 那么最好就不要做啦。