汉语中特有的anomaly

ysun wrote:
2. 形容詞：她是一名作家。 = 她是一位有名的作家。　

Zhoudan wrote:

“一名叔叔”，读着感觉不舒服，要说“一位叔叔”才顺口。

J.H. Wang wrote:

《怀念战友》 - 雷振邦 词曲 作于 1963年

天山脚下是我可爱的家乡
当我离开他的时候
好象那哈密瓜断了瓜秧
白杨树下住着我心上的姑娘
当我和她分别后
好象那都它尔闲挂在墙上
瓜秧断了哈密瓜依然香甜
琴师回来都它尔还会再响
当我永别了战友的时候
好象那雪崩飞滚万丈

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/academical?s=t
1. academic

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/academic
4. learned or scholarly but lacking in worldliness, common sense, or practicality.

wherestip wrote:



IMO, now we may be getting a little too academical. But sure, I personally think this kind of discussion is great.

wherestip wrote:



很长一段时间国内翻译水平普遍有限。 如果大多数的翻译们对一种陌生的英文说法都译得大同小异，又没人及时纠正，歪译就很有可能被视为正译，以讹传讹，被民众接受采纳 并予以推广普及了。

说句半开玩笑的话，许多这类木已成舟的新的词汇也可以看作是蹩脚翻译对社会语言发展所作出的贡献吧。

这种现象我们这些受过教育 "隔海观望" 的华人是看得很清楚的。就我个人来说，国内语言如何变化对自己并没有任何切身的利害关系，所以基本总是以第三者的眼光看待问题的。我猜想你们住在国内 语言程度比较高、理解能力比较强的 中、英 翻译们会有同样的感觉，甚或 对一些 译得差 但 广泛流行于社会的 " 有 '翻译腔' 的新词汇、新用法" 是不习惯、不欣赏的 (I'm certainly glad that I myself don't have to see or deal with these inventions)。 然而正像许多人在论坛里说的，语言发展和社会潮流一样，两者皆是不可阻挡的。 绝大多数情况下，我们只能睁一只眼、闭一只眼，任其自然。 鲁迅 先生于上世纪二十年代初期 所写的散文《故乡》中说的这段话 确实是 至理名言，在语言的发展过程上引用亦是非常恰当而且精辟的。

As they say, "If you can't beat them, join them." ...
I think I would be forced to do that too if I were to move and live in China.

That said, I still don't use double negatives after all these years living in the U.S.. I figure why make myself feel out of my own element when there's absolutely no need to do so? Alternatively, I guess you could also attribute it to "you can't teach an old dog new tricks".




[Edited at 2014-01-25 04:12 GMT]

Fargoer wrote:



您说的意思没错。但这里的“一名”俩字不是一个词，而是两个词（如果一定要用以“词”为单位来解析汉语句子的话）。“一”是数词 ＝ one，“名”是形容词 ＝ “famous 。

而且，这样的说法不是标准的普通话。只有北方的一些地区，如京津地区的口语中，才有这样的说法。或者说，在规范的书面语中，“一”和“名作家”之间的量词“位”是不能省略的。否则就会出现这里提到的歧义。

http://tiku.21cnjy.com/quest/QzMzQ__wMTxM.html
住在某著名小区的张先生是一著名的民营企业家，收入较高，其妻子是某一经济效益较好的企业主管，其女儿大学毕业后在一大公司上班，收入亦很高。

http://wenwen.soso.com/z/q111653328.htm

HHKU |分类：外国文学 2008-12-30
《简爱》中`关于平等一段的对话`是什么？
补充： 拜托`《简爱》是一名著~~


http://movie.douban.com/review/3124554/

2011-09-16 17:26:12 梵曦
　　一童话，更是一名著。 
　　我们是把它当名著看的：思考社会和人性。。。

Fargoer wrote:


这个是不是您说的“文艺范”的经典？

当山峰没有棱角的时候
当河水不再流
当时间停住 日夜不分
当天地万物化为虚有
我还是不能和你分手
不能和你分手
你的温柔是我今生最大的守候

当太阳不再上升的时候
当地球不再转动
当春夏秋冬 不再变化
当花草树木全部凋残
我还是不能和你分散
不能和你分散
你的笑容是我今生最大的眷恋

J.H. Wang wrote:

处于剧变中的汉语

一方面是从古文到白话文的转变；另一方面，也是大规模翻译西方科技、文化的名词术语，引入现代文明的转变。总之，过去的一百年来，汉语一直处于剧烈的发展变化中。

ysun wrote:

2. 形容詞：她是一名作家。 = 她是一位有名的作家。　

wherestip wrote:

Sometimes even in written texts a classifier(量词) could be left out
... of course provided there's no ambiguity.

Alan Wang wrote:

Actor 这个词，我在一篇外交分析文章中见它被翻译为‘行为体’，对我来说比较新鲜或说有点别扭。它的意思当然是‘影响……的因素（人物、部门）’。这个词的使用频率很高，你要想避开‘行为体’的译法很难，我的做法就是让这两种说法并行。所以我渐渐地觉得翻译中词语使用的统一不是唯一可取的做法。

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