一个英国人的汉译英试译（以此接得某大项目）

nigerose wrote:



这样低廉的价格，译文惨不忍睹是正常的，辛苦您了。
有一个涉外代理公司员工(做校对工作)曾这样说：收到惨不忍睹的译文，真想动刀子杀人。哈哈。

nigerose wrote:

恐怕没那么多时间学习背景知识。
如果有良心，就不要做自己不熟悉的领域。

isahuang wrote:

哎呀，steve

不会是你做的最终决定选哪个翻译吧？

ysun wrote:

不久前，对于下面这句话中的“升压运行”应如何翻译，与某人有不同意见：
“快开门式压力容器应当设置满足下列要求的安全联锁装置：当快开门达到预定关闭部位方能升压运行的联锁控制功能。”

我建议译成 “pressure boosting operation”，但某人认为 boosting 是用词不当，应该用 increasing。其实，有不同意见很正常，但当我列出几本词典作为根据时，对方就开始以 “boosting American economy” 等言语来嘲笑我，并说“我翻译时从来不查词典，但也决不不懂装懂”，等等。他还列出自己对全句的翻译如下：
“The the speed shutter reaches the preset shutting position, the ability to Chain control the pressure increasing operation starts.”

以前遇到这种人，我会以牙还牙。但这次我只是列出自己对全句的翻译如下，让别人去判断到底是谁在“不懂装懂”：
“Pressure vessels with a quick-actuating closure should be equipped with a safety interlocking device that meets the following requirement: having such an interlocking control function that pressure boosting operation can not be started until the quick-actuating closure reaches the predetermined closing position.”

“翻译时从来不查词典”倒不去说它，但最起码翻完之后应该再看它一遍，把那重复的 “the” 去掉一个。声明一点，我只是就事论事，对事不对人。同时，我也欢迎对我的译文“拍砖”，不过可别对我本人“拍砖”。:D

ysun wrote:

不怕有争议，就怕不讲道理

不久前，对于下面这句话中的“升压运行”应如何翻译，与某人有不同意见：
“快开门式压力容器应当设置满足下列要求的安全联锁装置：当快开门达到预定关闭部位方能升压运行的联锁控制功能。”

我建议译成 “pressure boosting operation”，但某人认为 boosting 是用词不当，应该用 increasing。其实，有不同意见很正常，但当我列出几本词典作为根据时，对方就开始以 “boosting American economy” 等言语来嘲笑我，并说“我翻译时从来不查词典，但也决不不懂装懂”，等等。他还列出自己对全句的翻译如下：
“The the speed shutter reaches the preset shutting position, the ability to Chain control the pressure increasing operation starts.”

以前遇到这种人，我会以牙还牙。但这次我只是列出自己对全句的翻译如下，让别人去判断到底是谁在“不懂装懂”：
“Pressure vessels with a quick-actuating closure should be equipped with a safety interlocking device that meets the following requirement: having such an interlocking control function that pressure boosting operation can not be started until the quick-actuating closure reaches the predetermined closing position.”

“翻译时从来不查词典”倒不去说它，但最起码翻完之后应该再看它一遍，把那重复的 “the” 去掉一个。声明一点，我只是就事论事，对事不对人。同时，我也欢迎对我的译文“拍砖”，不过可别对我本人“拍砖”。:D

ysun wrote:

Joyce,

千万别误会。你这么一说，别人还以为我上面说的“某人”是指你了。赶紧把你的帖子改了吧，以免引起别人的误会。 以前曾有人建议你不要翻译国标，但我表示过支持，因为国标虽然包含技术内容，但难度不是太高，再说你又有你的“黑漆板凳”在那里做坚强后盾，完全能够做好。 你得到了客户的好评就说明了一切。不过，你轻易不涉足专利是明智的，因为如果对某技术领域不了解，翻译起来会很吃力。 隔行如隔山，我对我不熟悉的领域，照样也是碰都不去碰的。我上面说“拍砖”也是开玩笑。

Joyce Curran wrote:

您知道我这个人，说话从来就有什么就说什么，从心里到口里，不经过大脑的。

ysun wrote:

心直口快，正是你的优点所在。谢谢你的夸奖！我做得还很不够。

别隐退呀！ 要隐退起码也要等到我隐退之后再说。:D

[Edited at 2009-03-22 19:25 GMT]

Joyce Curran wrote:

上星期，法国一家客户发邮件来，优惠我$0.04/word, 还是长远合作。您说，我还不黑灯瞎火的赶，才够去买件衣服的？他们也不是不知道欧洲的消费，欺负人嘛。

wherestip wrote:

Yueyin,

I agree. The translation by that colleague didn't even come close. The English was poor, and the attitude even worse.

Sometimes the arrogance seen in these boards is just amazing. I occasionally witnessed it when I was active in KudoZ. I think it's the same kind of poor attitude that xxxIanWrux was complaining about in his original post of that link, "Who needs the natives?" - the crux of the matter being not so much of whether a translator is native or not, but the arrogance demonstrated by some people not willing to listen to more-qualified others, often with nothing to back which up but the bravado and insults they resort to.

Luckily we don't see much of it in our forum, knock on wood.

ysun wrote:

Steve,

Kevin 前面说，”Your discussion did remind me some similar debates we had in this forum in the past. I hope Yueyin can remember it well.” 对于那些事情我当然不会轻易忘记，只是本来不想再提。不过，谈谈应该如何对待同事还是会有益的。

我上Kudoz 答题纯粹是为了提供自己的建设性意见。我根本不需要什么 Kudoz points。当然，我在答题同时，因深入思考问题也会从中获益。可是如你所知，我多次在答题时或在论坛讨论时遭到无端攻击。尤其是一位以前与我素无来往的人，长期不懈地对我发动攻击。分析下来，我认为是由于他存在不正常的竞争心理。别的同事也曾认为那人心理不正常。翻译是一个竞争很激烈的市场。于是，有个别人就自觉或不自觉地把别的同事视为自己的竞争对手，千方百计地要贬低他们，以此抬高自己。以前对我和 Bin Li 等人竭力发动攻击的那位同事，自称也是搞医药专利翻译的，这恐怕也是原因之一。其实，翻译市场很大，只要有本事、肯下功夫，总还是会有许多项目干的。 否则，即使把我贬得“隐退”了，我的项目也不会因此而减少，他的项目也未必会因此而增多。

应该再次指出，Kevin、Denyce 和 Donglai 三位 moderators为维持论坛和 KudoZ 的正常秩序做出了杰出贡献！

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First of all, did you know that there is no such thing as cold? You can describe something as cold and everyone will know what you mean, but cold really only means that something contains less heat than something else. All there really is, is greater and lesser amounts of heat. The definition of refrigeration is The Removal and Relocation of Heat. So if something is to be refrigerated, it is to have heat removed from it. If you have a warm can of pop at say 80 degrees Fahrenheit and you would prefer to drink it at 40 degrees Fahrenheit, you could place it in your fridge for a while, heat would somehow be removed from it, and you could eventually enjoy a less warm pop. (oh, all right, a cold pop.) But lets say you placed that 40 ºF pop in the freezer for a while and when you removed it, it was at 35 ºF. See what I mean, even "cold" objects have heat content that can be reduced to a state of "less heat content". The limit to this process would be to remove all heat from an object. This would occur if an object was cooled to Absolute Zero which is -460 ºF or -273 ºC. They come close to creating this temperature under laboratory conditions and strange things like electrical superconductivity occur.