Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Serbian term or phrase:
Komunalna delatnost
English translation:
Public Services and Utilities
Added to glossary by
Vesna Maširević
Apr 18, 2011 07:27
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Serbian term
Komunalna delatnost
Serbian to English
Other
Government / Politics
local self-government
Poslovi komunalne policije su:
1) neposredno održavanje komunalnog i drugog zakonom uređenog reda od značaja za komunalnu delatnost
Videla sam da vec postoji diskusija na temu komunalnog reda ali se sa terminom 'communal order' slazem samo zbog nedostatka bolje opcije pa se nadam da cemo ipak pronaci nesto prikladnije.
(termin public utilities mislim da u ovom opstem smislu nije prihvatljiv jer je nas 'komunalni pojam' siri od PU)
Unapred hvala na odgovorima!
1) neposredno održavanje komunalnog i drugog zakonom uređenog reda od značaja za komunalnu delatnost
Videla sam da vec postoji diskusija na temu komunalnog reda ali se sa terminom 'communal order' slazem samo zbog nedostatka bolje opcije pa se nadam da cemo ipak pronaci nesto prikladnije.
(termin public utilities mislim da u ovom opstem smislu nije prihvatljiv jer je nas 'komunalni pojam' siri od PU)
Unapred hvala na odgovorima!
Proposed translations
(English)
5 +2 | public services and utilities | Natasa Djurovic |
4 +2 | municipal activities | Jelena Bogdanovic |
3 | communal activities | Aida Samardzic |
Proposed translations
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public services and utilities
http://www.madera-county.com/rma/archives/uploads/1116955563...
Po meni je ovo adekvatan prevod za komunalnu delatnost!
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Information in this Section was obtained from correspondence from public services and utility agencies. Additionally, data and analysis regarding water and wastewater services was obtained from the Water and Wastewater Infrastructure Study (dated October 2004) completed for the Project site by RBF Consulting, Inc. This Section includes an Existing Conditions discussion that provides background information necessary to understand potential impacts of the proposed Project. The criteria by which an impact may be considered potentially significant is provided along with a discussion of impacts pursuant to Appendix G of the CEQA Guidelines. Mitigation measures have been identified to reduce potential impacts to less than significant levels.
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This chapter describes existing public servicesandutilities in
San BenitoCounty. Each type of public service has a unique
setofconstraints,andeachservicemustadapttogrowthand
change differently. This chapter describes the capacities and
levels of service for various public and private facilities,
services,andutilitiesservingSanBenitoCounty.
Thischapterisorganizedintothefollowingsections:
WaterSupplyandDelivery(Section7.1)
WastewaterCollectionandDisposal(Section7.2)
StormDrainageandStormwaterQuality(Section7.3)
SolidandHazardousWaste(Section7.4)
Utilities(Section7.5)
LawEnforcement(Section7.6)
FireProtection(Section7.7)
EmergencyMedicalServices(Section7.8)
Schools(Section7.9)
OtherCountyServices(Section7.10)
Chapter 7
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http://sanbenitogpu.com/pdf/BR-PRD/SBC_PRDBR_Ch7_PublicFacil...
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http://www.ci.chowchilla.ca.us/dept. forms/Com Dev/General P...
Po meni je ovo adekvatan prevod za komunalnu delatnost!
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Note added at 6 hrs (2011-04-18 13:56:51 GMT)
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Information in this Section was obtained from correspondence from public services and utility agencies. Additionally, data and analysis regarding water and wastewater services was obtained from the Water and Wastewater Infrastructure Study (dated October 2004) completed for the Project site by RBF Consulting, Inc. This Section includes an Existing Conditions discussion that provides background information necessary to understand potential impacts of the proposed Project. The criteria by which an impact may be considered potentially significant is provided along with a discussion of impacts pursuant to Appendix G of the CEQA Guidelines. Mitigation measures have been identified to reduce potential impacts to less than significant levels.
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Note added at 6 hrs (2011-04-18 14:02:59 GMT)
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This chapter describes existing public servicesandutilities in
San BenitoCounty. Each type of public service has a unique
setofconstraints,andeachservicemustadapttogrowthand
change differently. This chapter describes the capacities and
levels of service for various public and private facilities,
services,andutilitiesservingSanBenitoCounty.
Thischapterisorganizedintothefollowingsections:
WaterSupplyandDelivery(Section7.1)
WastewaterCollectionandDisposal(Section7.2)
StormDrainageandStormwaterQuality(Section7.3)
SolidandHazardousWaste(Section7.4)
Utilities(Section7.5)
LawEnforcement(Section7.6)
FireProtection(Section7.7)
EmergencyMedicalServices(Section7.8)
Schools(Section7.9)
OtherCountyServices(Section7.10)
Chapter 7
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http://sanbenitogpu.com/pdf/BR-PRD/SBC_PRDBR_Ch7_PublicFacil...
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Note added at 7 hrs (2011-04-18 14:40:32 GMT)
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http://www.ci.chowchilla.ca.us/dept. forms/Com Dev/General P...
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municipal activities
Evo termina sa širim značenjem od public utilities....
Note from asker:
Hvala Jelena! Sasvim bi moglo da posluzi ali ne i u slucaju kad te aktivnosti pokrivaju siri pojam od opstine (grad). Hvala na odgovoru! :) |
1 hr
communal activities
Koleginice, slazem se s vama po pitanju termina. Medjutim, mislim da se on 'doselio' u nas jezik, jer se vec koristi kao "communal", "communal police officers", "communal policing" itd. Pogledajte website OSCE i jos neke, pa cete videti da je to taj termin. Cesto mozete videti i naziv "municipality communal activities", tako da se delimicno slazem sa Jelenom.
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Slazem se sa vama potpuno. Ponukalo me nedavno iskustvo sa jednog kons. prevodjenja gde sam shvatila da govornici ne razumeju o cemu govorite ako promenite termin :-). Onda sam izabrala "community service/activities" kao kompromis, sto mislim i da je tacan prevod. Nisam se mnogo opirala, a cini mi se da nisam ni imala mnogo izbora :-)
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O sajtu bih imala stosta dodati. Izludjuje me na vise polja i iz vise razloga, ali 'never mind', tako je kako je :-). Veliki pozz.
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Slazem se sa vama potpuno. Ponukalo me nedavno iskustvo sa jednog kons. prevodjenja gde sam shvatila da govornici ne razumeju o cemu govorite ako promenite termin :-). Onda sam izabrala "community service/activities" kao kompromis, sto mislim i da je tacan prevod. Nisam se mnogo opirala, a cini mi se da nisam ni imala mnogo izbora :-)
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O sajtu bih imala stosta dodati. Izludjuje me na vise polja i iz vise razloga, ali 'never mind', tako je kako je :-). Veliki pozz.
Reference:
http://www.osce.org/hcnm/69069
http://www.osce.org/search/apachesolr_search/communal%20policy
Note from asker:
Na OSCE je communal u ovom kontesktu upotrebljeno u prevodu sa makedonskog isl. U linkovanom pdf fajlu je upotrebljeno u sasvim drugom smislu (national minorities...) a u engleskom jeziku i ima taj drugi smisao. To sto nasi prevodioci uporno bukvalno prevode ovaj pojam nije razlog da se i mi priklonimo tome :) U svakom slucaju, puno hvala na odgovoru! :) |
Pa.. da. Dodatni 'problem' se javlja jer su nasi prevodi vecinom namenjeni auditorijumu koji tkdj nije 'izvorno engleski'. (Na stranu to sto mene ovaj sajt izludjuje sa nedostatkom opcije da svakom odgovoru dodelim poene:) |
Discussion
Komunalnu policiju formira grad (za, citat iz zakona: komunalno-policijske i druge poslove čijim obavljanjem se obezbeđuje izvršavanje nadležnosti grada). I tako ja opet odoh u pravcu local police ali ocito se ne predajem :)))
Nadleznost komunalne policije svodi se na pitanja komunalnih delatnosti - public utilites, environment, urbanism isl. + (upravo shvatih) nadzor u saobracaju. Municipal se pretvara u dodatnu komplikaciju kada ne govorimo o opstini vec o gradu (koji obuhvata nekoliko opstina). Sve u svemu.. izbegavala sam kombinacije sa 'community' sve dok sam mogla ali vise nisam sigurna. Na kraju ce biti 'community affairs' i community watch :D
http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/
http://www.communitypolicing.ca/
http://www.lacp.org/Articles - Expert - Our Opinion/060908-C...
http://www.cj.msu.edu/~people/cp/20year.html
Ovde: http://www.opstinamilici.org/index.php?option=com_content&vi... je slucaj mozda najpametnije resen jer je odeljenju koje se bavi nasim 'komunalnim poslovima' dat naziv Odjeljenje za prostorno uredjenje i stambeno komunalni poslovi i ekologija.
Dodatni problem - komunalna delatnost mora dobiti naziv koji ce kasnije sluziti i za naziv komunalne inspekcije...
Mozda da se vratimo na varijantu 'public utilities' jer se mozda moze reci da zakon o komunalnim delatnostima u uzem smislu i podrazumeva upravo PU.
http://www.zurbnis.rs/zakoni/Zakon o komunalnim delatnostima...
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