Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Saisir le pointillage

English translation:

to tick and tie accounting entries

Added to glossary by Nicholas Rose
Jun 8, 2022 21:21
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French term

Saisir le pointillage

French to English Bus/Financial Accounting Terms describing everyday accounting work
Dans un contrat d'embauche :

Article 4 : Fonctions

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Comptabilités auxiliaires

- Saisir le pointillage et le lettrage des écritures comptables clients et fournisseurs
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Discussion

Francois Boye Jun 10, 2022:
@ Robbie

Tick and tie runs from accounting entries to sub-ledgers to the general ledger and to financial statements.

Double-entry bookkeeping is predicated on tick and tie
Samuël Buysschaert Jun 9, 2022:
Fwiw Not sure if it is helpful, but here are some terms from CA:

Checking of entries

https://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2014/tpsgc...
English-French "Glossary of Fiscal, Financial and Administrative Terms" in use in the Department of National Revenue, Taxation (CA)
(also found in Termium)
https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-fra.html?l...

Comparison of entries (GDT & Termium)
https://gdt.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/ficheOqlf.aspx?Id_Fiche=19002975
Trust Royal (CA)


Sage XRT Advanced Reconciliation
https://www.dws.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/sage-xrt-advan...
Steve Robbie Jun 9, 2022:
Matching? French "rapprochement" is clearly a narrower word than English "reconciliation", which I think can be stretched to cover pointage et lettrage.

If you need to make a distinction between "pointage + lettrage" and "rapprochement", François' suggestion might work (although his reference is irrelevant, because it describes a different type of exercise), or you could maybe conjure up something with "matching" (invoices to payments etc.).

PS You only posted "pointillage", but I'd be surprised if you could distinguish pointage from lettrage meaningfully in English.
Conor McAuley Jun 8, 2022:
Great bit of research, but the customer and vendor bit is set out in the French and the Asker did not include it as part of his question.

Kudos, though, haha...
SafeTex Jun 8, 2022:
@ Conor and all Hello

I saw your answer and it made me wonder so I found one site that speaks of the different types of reconciliation

"Different types of reconciliation in accounting

It’s easier to understand account reconciliation by taking a closer look at some common reconciliation examples. There are five main types of account reconciliation: bank reconciliation, customer reconciliation, vendor reconciliation, inter-company reconciliation and business-specific reconciliation"


So I've agreed with you but what do you think about "customer and vendor reconciliation"?

Regards

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French term (edited): Saisir le pointillage des ecritures comptables
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to tick and tie accounting entries

You may be wondering what “tick and tie” means. It refers the action an accountant performs when he agrees one financial statement number to another. For example, the accountant can compare total assets with total liabilities and equity–they should be the same. If they are not, something is wrong.

https://cpahalltalk.com/tick-tie-financial-statements/

https://www.accountingtools.com/articles/what-is-an-accounti...

Note from asker:
Many thanks for your help
Peer comment(s):

agree Daryo
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Thanks!
neutral Steve Robbie : a more relevant source: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tick_and_tie // I've never heard this expression before, but it would make sense to me.
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Do you agree with my translation?
agree Adrian MM.
10 hrs
Thanks!
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To carry out reconcilation

"Pointage" appears to be a synonym of "pointillage".

https://officeopro.com/services/gestion-administrative-compt...

https://officeopro.com/services/gestion-administrative-compt...


"Le pointage est généralement réalisé pour :

les comptes bancaires (c'est un préalable pour réaliser un rapprochement bancaire) ;"

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointage_(comptabilité)

"What is a Bank Reconciliation?

A bank reconciliation statement is a document that compares the cash balance on a company’s balance sheet to the corresponding amount on its bank statement. Reconciling the two accounts helps identify whether accounting changes are needed. Bank reconciliations are completed at regular intervals to ensure that the company’s cash records are correct. They also help detect fraud and any cash manipulations."

https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/ac...

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You're welcome, Nicholas.
Note from asker:
Many thanks for your help
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : Could it be a typo?
38 mins
Yes, that did not occur to me. Thanks. Typo incorrrectly spellchecked I would guess.
disagree Francois Boye : you mistake 'pointage' for 'rapprochement des comptes'
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agree SafeTex : Plese see discussion for a possible addition to this answer
51 mins
Thanks SafeTex!
neutral Steve Robbie : Decent suggestion in asker's context, but begs the question: since your source distinguishes pointage from rapprochement, how would you do that in your translation?
10 hrs
As I infer and SafeTex's Discussion entry outlines, there are different types of reconciliations. What would I do if Dijon were hit by a tidal wave? I'd first be very surprised, since we're 500km from both the Atlantic Ocean and the Med. Nit-picking.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

le "pointillage" des "écritures comptables" ZERO ghits

le "pointage" des "écritures comptables" ghits aplenty

Pointage des écritures

La fonction de pointage permet de pointer des écritures comptables saisies dans la Gestion Comptable et Financière. Les écritures pointées à une date donnée sont toutes regroupées dans un groupe de pointage. Contrairement au rapprochement, il n'existe pas de notion d'équilibre et on peut donc valider un groupe de pointage déséquilibré.

https://frp.sage.fr/6.5.0.0/Sage1000FRP/Sage 1000 FRP Compta...

NB: these are instructions for widely used accounting software.

Pointage (comptabilité)
Le pointage est une opération élémentaire lors des processus de rapprochement, qui consiste à comparer les comptabilités de deux entités ayant des relations, et de vérifier que chaque opération commune a été correctement prise en compte de façon symétrique dans les deux comptabilités
https://wikimonde.com/article/Pointage_(comptabilité)



not the same as "le lettrage des écritures comptables"

Lettrage comptable

Le lettrage comptable d'un compte (généralement un compte de tiers) est une opération comptable qui consiste à affecter un seul repère à deux ou plusieurs entrées comptables dans ce compte, la somme des entrées au crédit devant être égale à la somme des entrées au débit. Le but est d'associer ainsi les opérations (par exemple association d'une facture et de son règlement, ou d'un règlement qui solde trois factures), et de constater quelles opérations restent sans association. Le repère utilisé est souvent une lettre de l'alphabet, d'où le nom de « lettrage ».
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On utilise souvent ce système pour vérifier le bon règlement des factures (émises ou reçues des fournisseurs) et ainsi identifier les factures en attente de règlement, ou dont le règlement ne correspond pas au montant prévu.
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Il existe trois techniques de lettrage : le lettrage manuel, le lettrage automatique a priori et le lettrage automatique a posteriori.
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Le lettrage automatique est une opération comptable qui consiste à associer des règlements avec des factures via un système informatisé. Le programme informatique permet de récupérer le détail des écritures de compte. En cas de concordance, l’association entre les règlements et les factures est effectuée automatiquement. Les lignes d’écritures comptables non lettrées dans les comptes sélectionnés sont ainsi affectées sans aucune ressaisie, grâce à un enchaînement automatique de critères de lettrage. Ce type de solution agit comme un véritable assistant de lettrage en traitant toutes les opérations de pointage et de lettrage souvent chronophages et fastidieuses.

Les avantages
Le lettrage automatique, en opposition au lettrage manuel, possède de multiples atouts :

-- Tenue à jour de la comptabilité au quotidien
-- Rapidité pour pointer les règlements avec les factures correspondantes
-- Diminution du coût de traitement des encaissements clients
-- Pas de ressaisie d’informations
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https://wikimonde.com/article/Lettrage_comptable
Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral Steve Robbie : The Sage instructions are interesting. Sage is British software, so it would be interesting if someone could find a comparable set of English instructions.
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