Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
affect
English answer:
change//alter//influence
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Lydia De Jorge
May 8, 2020 12:58
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English term
affect
English
Science
Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng
branched chain fatty acids
What could this be in proper English? Written by a Japanese scientist. I just asked for the term affect but the whole sentence is nebulous.
Therefore, the concentration of ethyl isovalerate showed a relatively good correlation with isovaleric acids derived from hops. A comparison between Figure 3A and 3B suggested that isovaleric acid formed during fermentation *could additively affect to ethyl isovalerate* in beer.
The figures are no help, just red dots in a diagram.
affect = break down?
I have more questions. When I get some sort of helpful reply, I will post my other questions.
Therefore, the concentration of ethyl isovalerate showed a relatively good correlation with isovaleric acids derived from hops. A comparison between Figure 3A and 3B suggested that isovaleric acid formed during fermentation *could additively affect to ethyl isovalerate* in beer.
The figures are no help, just red dots in a diagram.
affect = break down?
I have more questions. When I get some sort of helpful reply, I will post my other questions.
Change log
May 9, 2020 16:13: Lydia De Jorge changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/31863">Edith Kelly's</a> old entry - "affect"" to ""change//alter//influence""
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change//alter
My suggestions are based on synonyms for the verb 'affect'.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/affect
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/affect
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Effect - bring about the result
Could they have meant "effect" in the sense of bringing about a result? Seems like they could have based on context.
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I don't think "effect to" is grammatical regardless, but it looks like they could have been going for that meaning, anyway.
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Oh, and in this case, your guess of "break down [into]" *could* be a possibility.
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I don't think "effect to" is grammatical regardless, but it looks like they could have been going for that meaning, anyway.
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Oh, and in this case, your guess of "break down [into]" *could* be a possibility.
Note from asker:
It is definitely "affect", whatever that might mean here. I know the author, he has no English, it is a translation. I am the proofreader and translator into German. I usually understand what he means but this is beyond me. From the context, I thought it might mean break down but I am far from sure. And here we go: As described above, it is thought that concentrations of this compound in both worts and beers were *affected* by hops used for brewing (Figure 1). |
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English term (edited):
could additively affect
was positively correlated with
Not my subject, hence the 3, but the following (also by a Japanese writer) makes more sense to me:
The concentration of ethyl isovalerate showed relatively good correlation with isovaleric acids derived from hops
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/338139006_Behaviour_...
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You can see how the translator wrongly arrived at "could additively affect". The more hops, and thus isometric acids, the more ethyl isovalerate.
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If it's the same author, that makes it MORE likely that my answer is correct. He's saying the same thing in two different ways.
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So make it a 4, not a 3.
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Sorry, that was an autocorrect error. Isovaleric, not isometric.
The concentration of ethyl isovalerate showed relatively good correlation with isovaleric acids derived from hops
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/338139006_Behaviour_...
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You can see how the translator wrongly arrived at "could additively affect". The more hops, and thus isometric acids, the more ethyl isovalerate.
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If it's the same author, that makes it MORE likely that my answer is correct. He's saying the same thing in two different ways.
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So make it a 4, not a 3.
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Sorry, that was an autocorrect error. Isovaleric, not isometric.
Note from asker:
Thanks Phil. Same author, and that sentence also occurs in my text but is not helpful here. Sorry |
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amount of ethyl isovalerate should be proportional to isovaleric acid
In fermentation there are cascades of reactions where each product of a singular reaction yields to another product where the final product in this case is “ethyl isovalerate.”
Ethyl isovalerate is an organic compound that is the “ester” formed from ethyl alcohol and isovaleric acid.
Normally esters are derived from a carboxylic acid (such as 3-Methylbutanoic also known as isovaleric acid) and an alcohol (such as ethanol).
Thus formation of isovaleric acid and ethanol during fermentation process could yield to “ehyl isovalerate.”
In other words the use “affect” is not equivalent to breakdown.
In my professional opinion the authors’ use of phrase “...could additively affect to ethyl isovalerate.” perhaps can be rephrased as “...during fermentation process ethyl isovalerate is expected to form and its amount should be proportional to isovaleric acid that was produced during this metabolic process.”
As for the next sentence “...However, it was interesting to note that *no correlation between isobutyric acid and ethyl isobutyrate* was found (Figure 3).” this is interesting because if you have a carboxylic acid (such as isobutyric acid) and an alcohol it is expected to find ethyl isobutyrate in this mixture. However they did not find any! Perhaps this is the difference between simple one to one chemical reaction vs a complex metabolic process.
FYI i am not here to argue about the errors in the use of the language. Instead as a fellow biochemist i am providing “an explanation” about their description of defined chemical reaction.
Ethyl isovalerate is an organic compound that is the “ester” formed from ethyl alcohol and isovaleric acid.
Normally esters are derived from a carboxylic acid (such as 3-Methylbutanoic also known as isovaleric acid) and an alcohol (such as ethanol).
Thus formation of isovaleric acid and ethanol during fermentation process could yield to “ehyl isovalerate.”
In other words the use “affect” is not equivalent to breakdown.
In my professional opinion the authors’ use of phrase “...could additively affect to ethyl isovalerate.” perhaps can be rephrased as “...during fermentation process ethyl isovalerate is expected to form and its amount should be proportional to isovaleric acid that was produced during this metabolic process.”
As for the next sentence “...However, it was interesting to note that *no correlation between isobutyric acid and ethyl isobutyrate* was found (Figure 3).” this is interesting because if you have a carboxylic acid (such as isobutyric acid) and an alcohol it is expected to find ethyl isobutyrate in this mixture. However they did not find any! Perhaps this is the difference between simple one to one chemical reaction vs a complex metabolic process.
FYI i am not here to argue about the errors in the use of the language. Instead as a fellow biochemist i am providing “an explanation” about their description of defined chemical reaction.
Discussion
affect
1 (verb) in the sense of influence
Definition
to influence (someone or something)
Synonyms:
influence
involve
concern
impact
transform
alter
modify
change
manipulate
act on
sway
prevail over
bear upon
impinge upon
He means it will change in some way.
Web results
to have an effect - synonyms and related words | Macmillan ...www.macmillandictionary.com › british › to-have-an-e...
to have an effect or influence on someone or something. affect. verb. to change or influence something. If something affects something else, it has an effect on it ...
I just cannot figure out what *affected* means in this context. As I already wrote, my best guess is "broken down", but I need confirmation.
As is the case for isovaleric acid, it is also thought that concentrations of isobutyric acid in both worts and beers were affected by hops (Figure 1). However, it was interesting to note that *no correlation between isobutyric acid and ethyl isobutyrate* was found (Figure 3).