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English term or phrase:
and perceiving needs
English answer:
estimating or seeing what the needs are
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Yvonne Gallagher
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English term
and perceiving needs
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Hello everyone,
Before investing in a collaborative relationship, plants weigh the costs and benefits. They assess whether sharing the cost of responding to environmental cues ***and perceiving needs*** will pay off in terms of increased survival and reproduction. The decision about whether to compete or collaborate is influenced by the presence of kin: a number of studies have shown that collaboration is more likely when neighbors are closely related. Many organisms, including plants, understand that reducing competition or increasing collaboration in the presence of kin has significant implications for survival and thriving of the species as a whole.
Does "and perceiving needs" imply and responding to perceiving needs?
But why "perceiving needs", not "perceived needs" or needs perceived?
Or can "perceiving needs" imply that perception of needs requiries energy?
I asked aboutthis phrase on another forum, but unfortunately no answers so far.
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/and-perceiving-needs...
Thank you.
Before investing in a collaborative relationship, plants weigh the costs and benefits. They assess whether sharing the cost of responding to environmental cues ***and perceiving needs*** will pay off in terms of increased survival and reproduction. The decision about whether to compete or collaborate is influenced by the presence of kin: a number of studies have shown that collaboration is more likely when neighbors are closely related. Many organisms, including plants, understand that reducing competition or increasing collaboration in the presence of kin has significant implications for survival and thriving of the species as a whole.
Does "and perceiving needs" imply and responding to perceiving needs?
But why "perceiving needs", not "perceived needs" or needs perceived?
Or can "perceiving needs" imply that perception of needs requiries energy?
I asked aboutthis phrase on another forum, but unfortunately no answers so far.
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/and-perceiving-needs...
Thank you.
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Nov 22, 2021 11:23: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "(none)" to "Botany"
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estimating/seeing what the needs are
It's part of the plant's assessment of the situation. And yes it's anthromorphic but acceptable in the context I'd say.
Plants are weighing up the pros and cons of collaborating. They are looking at environmental factors to calculate what needs might be required and need to be met and whether collaboration will be worth it on that basis. The same structure is used for both factors
The question:
IS
SHARING the cost (of responding to environmental cues)
AND PERCEIVING (seeing/estimating) the needs required
worth it for "increased survival and reproduction".
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It could be written also as
The cost of a response to environmental cues and perceived needs
is assessed by plants and the benefit of collaboration for "increased survival and reproduction" is (thereby) estimated.
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Glad to have helped. "Perceiving" is quite clearly a verb, not an adjective
Plants are weighing up the pros and cons of collaborating. They are looking at environmental factors to calculate what needs might be required and need to be met and whether collaboration will be worth it on that basis. The same structure is used for both factors
The question:
IS
SHARING the cost (of responding to environmental cues)
AND PERCEIVING (seeing/estimating) the needs required
worth it for "increased survival and reproduction".
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It could be written also as
The cost of a response to environmental cues and perceived needs
is assessed by plants and the benefit of collaboration for "increased survival and reproduction" is (thereby) estimated.
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Note added at 5 days (2021-11-27 12:21:29 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped. "Perceiving" is quite clearly a verb, not an adjective
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Comment: "Many thanksto everyone.
Thank you, Yvonne. "
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and the cost of perceiving needs
I think the author wants to say:
"They assess whether sharing the cost of responding to environmental cues, and the cost of perceiving needs, will pay off in terms of increased survival and reproduction."
That answered your first 2 questions.
As to your 3rd question:
Yes, "the cost of perceiving needs" implies that the act of perceiving needs requires energy or efforts or sacrifice (maybe slower growth) from the plants.
"They assess whether sharing the cost of responding to environmental cues, and the cost of perceiving needs, will pay off in terms of increased survival and reproduction."
That answered your first 2 questions.
As to your 3rd question:
Yes, "the cost of perceiving needs" implies that the act of perceiving needs requires energy or efforts or sacrifice (maybe slower growth) from the plants.
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Daryo
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Oleg Muzhdabaev
: I think you are right. Both costs should decrease through sharing and collaboration.
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Discussion
There are many examples of companion planting (and lots of research and books on the subject) where it is widely accepted that some plants when planted together have beneficial OR adverse effects on each other. There has also been a lot of research on tree and plant "communication" and there is scientific agreement that some form of "communication" exists.
So it's NOT about the cost of "perceiving" That is quite simply wrong! It's the cost of possible required needs IF there is collaboration
https://www.growveg.co.uk/guides/companion-planting-allelopa... OR https://www.wired.com/2013/12/secret-language-of-plants/ OR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_communication