moneta piena

English translation: full price

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Italian term or phrase:moneta piena (conversational)
English translation:full price
Entered by: Michael Meskers

01:47 Aug 17, 2017
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Italian term or phrase: moneta piena
Hi all -

I am wondering what "moneta piena" means in the context of a coin for sale on eBay:

http://www.ebay.it/itm/sesterzio-Massimino-1-235-238-DC-mone...

I have believe I have heard Italians say that someone should be paid "in moneta piena."

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Michael Meskers
United States
Local time: 04:12
full price
Explanation:
No bargaining.
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Peter Cox
Italy
Local time: 10:12
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Thanks!
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3 +1completely round
Barbara Carrara
4"piena coin"
annitap
3full price
Peter Cox


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full price


Explanation:
No bargaining.

Peter Cox
Italy
Local time: 10:12
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 32
Grading comment
Thanks!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Peter - I believe you're absolutely right in the second case I mentioned in my query. When I posted it I hadn't realized how "moneta piena" is used in at least two different ways; one in the Italian vernacular and the other a very literal one, by numismatists. If you want, I can repost this second scenario so I can give you the points.

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
completely round


Explanation:
In this case, 'moneta piena' means that it is in a mint state, with no flaws (sharp details, legible legends) as opposed to a worn example, with signs of wear, erosion etc.

'... la moneta metallica comprende sia la moneta piena che quella erosa.'
http://tinyurl.com/y86nyhox

Have a look at this link on coin grading
http://tinyurl.com/yafd59bg



Barbara Carrara
Italy
Local time: 10:12
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 28

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"piena coin"


Explanation:
I understand it is a type of antique coin. Please see sentence below:
"La moneta segno è quella il cui valore nominale è superiore al valore della materia di cui è composta;
la moneta piena è quella il cui valore nominale non è superiore a quello della materia che
la compone: si veda C.M. Cipolla, Moneta e civiltà mediterranea, Venezia 1957, p. 41"

http://www.rmoa.unina.it/2106/1/373-1384-2-PB.pdf

Also, if you google "piena coin" you will find there are some articles on sale at Etsy (example: luna piena coin)

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Note added at 3 hrs (2017-08-17 05:00:17 GMT)
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Please consider "piena" coin (not "piena coin")

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Note added at 3 hrs (2017-08-17 05:02:33 GMT)
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Here is the link where you will find "luna piena coin" on sale at Etsy

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS754US754&biw=1...

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Note added at 3 hrs (2017-08-17 05:26:37 GMT)
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If you google "moneta piena" (images) you will find they all refer to antique coins, except for a few images depicting purses and pots full of modern coins. The reason is that "PIENA" means "FULL" so images of purses and pots "FULL" of coins have also been included :))


annitap
United States
Local time: 04:12
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Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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